Friday 7 February 2014

Pre- and Post-test Reflection

On November 22, you had the opportunity to write an argument essay with no instruction. Then, after a six-week unit of study, you wrote another argument essay on a topic of your choosing. Answer the following questions in the comment section of this post by using COMPLETE SENTENCES.

1. Read your pre-test essay twice.
2. Read your post-test essay twice.
3. Do both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least two ways?
4. Which essay has more reasons to prove your claim?
5. Does your essay have a conclusion?
6. Did you organize your essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test?
7. What did you learn about writing argument essays that you will use in the future?
8. How did you grow and improve as a writer?
9. Which essay are you more proud of? Why? Explain.

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  2. 1. Done
    2. Done
    3. Yes
    4. The argument Pre-Test
    5. Yes Both,
    6. Yes because in my pre-test I got to research so I feel that one was better.
    7. That you need to have a debatable claim and good reasons
    8. By writing more and more each day to improve your writing and become more enthusiastic.
    9. I'm more proud of the argument pre test because I formatted it correctly and I had a lot of reasons.
    -Lydia

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  3. I read the pre and post test and the pre test did not have did not have a clam that could be argued in two sentences. And the post test have more evidence by far because I have already did the unit. And also the pre did not have a conclusion. And brightest we're organized in different ways in every single way. I will use a lot of things from this unit in the future like how to organize it and the work sited page. I improved as a writer by the way I have the claim. And I am most proud of my post teat with the score with what they showed like grammar and spelling

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  4. I read my post test and pre test twice. Both pieces have a claim that can be argued in two ways. The Apple CEO argument could say he is good or bad. The music helps kids work argument could be argued by teachers that it is distracting and kids it is helpful. My CEO of Apple essay has more reasons to prove my claim. Both essay have a conclusion. In the pre test it was more quotes and in the post it was organized by personal experience and statistics. I learned about argument essay that I can come up with good topics. I grew and improved as a writer by organizing details. I am more proud of my Apple CEO essay because it has more reasons to prove my claim.

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  5. 1. Read your pre-test essay twice.
    2. Read your post-test essay twice.
    3. Do both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least two ways?
    Both pieces have a debatable claim.
    4. Which essay has more reasons to prove your claim?
    My first essay has more reasons to prove my claim.
    5. Does your essay have a conclusion?
    Both essays have a conclusion.
    6. Did you organize your essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test?
    My first essay was organized better and I used spaces. But on the day of the second test I had to write multiple essays. My first test was more neat and had more evidence, because I could go online and research on the first one.
    7. What did you learn about writing argument essays that you will use in the future?
    I learned that you should take time for good, detailed reasons and spacing them. But I knew that before, and I didn't learn much of anything new.
    8. How did you grow and improve as a writer?
    My first one was better, so I'm not sure what that means, but I didn't improve.
    9. Which essay are you more proud of? Why? Explain.
    I'm prouder of my first essay because it was more detailed, had better, broader reasons, and it's organized neatly.

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  6. Done
    Done
    Yes
    Yes both
    Yes
    That lebron is better
    Now I use , and go grammar
    Post test because I was able to write more and way more detailed it was a subject that I kno better

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  7. (I don't have a pre-test)
    I read the post test and i do have a claim that could argued in sentences. The post test had more evidence because i don't have the pre-test, My post test had a conclusion. I don't know if I organized my essay differently because I don't have it. In the future I will use works sited pages. I improved by paragraphing better, I am most proud of my post test.

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  8. I have read both the pre-test and post-test 2 times. Both claims can be argued in two ways. The pre-test has more reasons than the post-test. I think it might be because in the pre-test we were allowed to research. We weren't allowed to research on the post test. Both of my essays have a conclusion. I did organize my essay differently. My pre-test was 4 paragraphs. Reason 1,2,3 then the conclusion. I learned about writing argument essays that evidence is important. All that matters is using evidence. Also that you explain your evidence. I grew as a writer by realizing that length isn't everything. It can be short but get the point across easily. I am more proud of the pre-test. I had no idea it was coming and I just went out there and wrote something very good.

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  9. I mean good grammar and that lebron is better than ok and for good reason

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  10. Do both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least two ways?
    Yes, because... They both have at least two reasons?
    Which essay has more reasons to prove your claim?
    My pre test and my post test have the same amount of reasons.
    Does your essay have a conclusion?
    I think only my post test has a conclusion.
    Did you organize your essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test?
    Well, both times I forgot paragraphs in my work, so I would say not really. But inside my writing, I'd say it's a bit better in my post test than my pre test.
    What did you learn about writing argument essays that you will use in the future?
    I learned how to organize my writing, so it looks better and is easier to read.
    How did you grow and improve as a writer?
    I improved on organizing and I would say I'm a bit more persuasive.
    Which essay are you more proud of? Why? Explain.
    I am proud of both I would say because they are both persuasive but one has a more important topic in my opinion, and one is more organized.

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  11. 1. Done


    2. done


    3. Yes


    4. Post test


    5. Yes


    6. No


    7. I learned about organizing paragraphs


    8. I learned more


    9. My post test because its more organized

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    1. 1. I read my post test twice


      2. I read my pre test twice


      3. Yes both my pieces have a claim that can be gone two ways

      4. My post test have more evidence


      5. Yes my essay has a conclusion

      6. No I did not organize my essays diffrently

      7. I learned about organizing essays and evidence is important

      8. I learned more about writing

      9. My post test is way more organized

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  12. yes
    yes
    yes
    yes both

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  13. Grace
    3 no only my lacross story
    4 the post test
    5 only my pre test
    6no my essays are tham when it comes to orginizing it
    7 i learnd that you always need proff
    8 i grew as a wirter bye learning where the write reasons go
    9 i am most proud of my lacrosse post test

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  14. 1. Done


    2. done


    3. Yes


    4. Post test


    5. Yes


    6. No


    7. I learned about paragraphing


    8. I learned more


    9. My post test because its more organized

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  15. Yes

    My Pre-Test

    Yes my essay has a conclusion

    Yes I did because they are both different essays.

    To focus, pay attention and read my writing over again.

    `How I grew is I learned to write out of my comfort zone and try new things.

    I am most proud of my pre-test because I explained more and I had a good feeling about it because lots of people think of what I think.

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  16. Ryan

    3. Do both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least two ways? Yes, both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least 2 ways.
    4. Which essay has more reasons to prove your claim?
    Both essays have the same amount of reasons to prove my claim.
    5. Does your essay have a conclusion?
    Yes, both essays have a conclusion.
    6. Did you organize your essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test?n Yes, I did organize my pre-test differently from my post- test because my pre-test was many paragraphs and my post-test only has one paragraph.
    7. What did you learn about writing argument essays that you will use in the future? I learned that I have to have a specific claim instead of a broad claim.
    8. How did you grow and improve as a writer?
    I grew and improved from this unit because I learned much about how to write argument paragraphs.
    9. Which essay are you more proud of? Why? Explain. I think I am more proud of my second essay because I use a debatable claim and I keep it short in one paragraph, so I get to my point a lot quicker.

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  17. I read my argument pre-test and i did not have a good claim or conclusion. But my beging can be argued in two ways. The one we wrote for a long time.Yes my essay has an conclusion. Yes i did orginize it differently. I learned that we should not have year round school. I improved by learning to paraphrazies. I am more proud of the argument pre-test because i felt like i did a better job.

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  18. 1.done
    2.done
    3.yes
    4.yes
    5. Yes
    6.yes they are different because one os smaller and one is much bigger
    7.I learned that you need a ton of evidence to support you claim
    8.I grew and improved as writer cause I learned to get evidence and not just give my opinion
    9. I am proud of my post test because I tried my hardest and it turned out great.

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  19. 1. Done
    2. Done
    3. Yes, they both do.
    4. The post-test
    5. Yes, both do.
    6. Yes.
    7. Using claims and evidence and conclusions and back up sentences.
    8. I improved and grew as a writer by having better writing layouts, and am able to do more research and have more things to back up my evidence.
    9. I am more proud of the Post-Test, because it has more detail and a better layout and even has a better topic.

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  20. I read both of my essays twice. Both of my essays claims can be argued in at least two ways. My post test essay has more reasons then my pre test. My essays has a conclusion. Yes, I did organized my essay differently from pre test to post test. Something I learned about writing a argument essay so that I will remember it in the future is that you need a lot of evidence for the essay to be really true. I grew and improved as a writer because this is something new that I have never done before so now I know how to write one. The essay that I am most proud of is the post test because I knew who to use evidence and find the right place for it.

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  21. 1.Yes
    2.My Argument Pre-Test
    3.My Argument Pre-Test
    4.Yes
    5.My Argument Pre-Test
    6.Yes, one has paragraphs and the other one is a big block of text.
    7.I should organize my essay better by putting it into paragraphs.
    8.I have a lot of reasons that can be argued in both ways. My essay has a lot of reseach into it and I did not just say that one is better than the other one. I said that the other one is also good.
    9.I am more proud of my Argument Pre-Test because I wrote more and I put it into paragraphs. I also did research on the topic and I put more effort into it. It is also about an important topic about basketball. I gave a ton of reasons why one is better than the other one and why the other one is better too. I am very proud of my Argument Pre-Test.

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  22. yes I retread my essay.
    agian I retread it two times.
    yes I have a good claim and It had to ways thT I support it
    My post test has the best because it has less spelling errors
    The best bike is the verde AV
    I learned how to type faster on my ipad
    I am most proud of my post test essay

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  23. 1.I Read your pre-test essay twice.
    2. Iyour post-test essay twice.
    3. yes both pieces of my essay has a claim that can be argued in at least two ways
    4. the second one has a stronger claim
    5.my essay has a conclusion
    6. i organized my pre-test from the post-test?
    7. i learned that you need a strong claim
    8. i improved in making a better claim
    9. my last one is the one i am most proud of because i changed the most

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  24. Yes both have a claim and 2 reason
    My lebron Kobe essay has more reason to prove my claim
    They both have concution
    I organized my essay better by spreading it out.
    I now use better grammar and speed better.
    I'm proud of my post test because it has more reasons and better claim

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  25. Yes, both of my argument essay have a claim that can be argued on both sides.My pre test has more reasons to prove your claim because you have tough me how to do that.Yes, both of my essay do have a conclusion at the end. Yes, I did make a different from my post to pre test because my pre test was way more organize. I think that I will make sheer that i will always paragraph my essays. I grow and improve with writing because i learned how to make the best argument essay. I am more proud of my pre test because I could see that I leaned how to write a great argument pre test.

    By,
    Joseph

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  26. 1.i have read my post test twice
    2.i have also read pre test twice
    3.both pieces have a claim and everything else
    4.arguement post test
    5.yes my essay's have a conclusion
    6.yes they are both orginized diffrently
    7.i learned to use more puncuation
    8.i grew as a wiriter by learning my mistakes
    9.im more proud of my post test because i did better on it

    -Will Baughman

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  27. Ethan,

    1.done
    2.done
    3.yes
    4.post test
    5.yes
    6.yes
    7. that you need to make it in paragraphs and you need your sorces listed and who its by or else its copy right
    8.By learning that i need evidence if i am going to do a argument, and i cant just right it down and say "this is my reason"
    9. my post test, because i feel its better in evidence and it has a better claim.

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  28. 1. Read your pre-test essay twice.
    2. Read your post-test essay twice.
    3. Do both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least two ways?
    Only My Argument post test has a claim.
    4. Which essay has more reasons to prove your claim?
    My post argument test has more reasons to prove my claim.
    5. Does your essay have a conclusion?
    My post argument test has a conclusion.
    6. Did you organize your essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test?
    Yes, I did my essays differently one has a claim and the other one doesn't.
    7. What did you learn about writing argument essays that you will use in the future?
    I learned about my argument essays if it was a little bit hard I will just keep writing.

    8. How did you grow and improve as a writer?
    I learned about myself as a writer, I learn to always to have a claim and reasons.

    9. Which essay are you more proud of? Why? Explain.
    I like my soccer essay because it has a claim and personal experience and reasons.

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  29. 1. Read your pre-test essay twice.
    2. Read your post-test essay twice.
    3. Do both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least two ways?
    Only my post test was a good claim.
    4. Which essay has more reasons to prove your claim?
    My post test did.
    5. Does your essay have a conclusion?
    Yes, my post test did.
    6. Did you organize your essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test?
    YES
    7. What did you learn about writing argument essays that you will use in the future?
    To plan on it.
    8. How did you grow and improve as a writer?
    I learned how to give a good claim and why.
    9. Which essay are you more proud of? Why? Explain.
    I am more proud of my post test because I had increased my good my 3X.

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  30. Yes, because Some people think Obama care is bad.
    My post test because it had 2 more than my pre.
    My post has a con. but not my pre.
    Yes, I had it more organized and detailed in my post.
    I learned that you need claim then 3details then conclusion
    I improved because now I can convince someone to believe me.
    I am proud of my pre because I didn't know anything and did well.

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  31. 1.done
    2.done
    3.yes
    4.post test
    5.yes
    6.yes
    7.I learned that to right a good argument eassy you have to really know about the subject and be commited
    8.I learned how to have a conclusion and not just the body of the letter or essay
    9.I liked my post test essay because I had reasons my claim and evedince and a conclusion I did not have all that in my pre test.So that is why I think my post test was alot better

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  32. My post test can be argued and it has two claims my post essay has lots of reasons to prove my claim my essay has 2 claims it has a conclusion that to have a conclusion and claims I grown as a writer because I never new you had to have more the 3 claims I only did my post test.

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  33. 1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. No, only one
    4. The Post-Test
    5. Yes
    6. Yes
    7. That essays have to have a body, not just random facts.
    8. When we did the Pre-Test, I didn't have a claim. Now, I am a better writer and have a claim.
    9. Post-Test, I am more of a skilled writer and know how to write a detailed and complete essay.
    ~Aria ; )

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  34. Niyathi
    I read my pore test and post test twice.Both pieces have a claim to argue about. My argument post test had more reasons because it had a lot to talk about. My essay has a conclusion. I organized my essay differently than each other. I learned that argument can be really useful in the future for persuading other people. I will improve as a writer by writing more at my house.

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  35. Done
    Done
    Yes
    Post test
    Yes
    Yes
    Yes
    I have learned as writer is to learn good sources then wright the story
    I have grown as a writer as a strong story teller
    I am most proud of the post test because I have learned a lot

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  36. 1. done
    2. done
    3. yes
    4. done
    5. yes
    6. yes
    7. i learned that it was hard to make it but you can do it.
    8. i learned aboute mt self as i wrighter you have to wright a lot and dont stop to have a good peace
    9. i am proud of my hockey esay becuase i think i worked hard and made a big list of hockey stuff

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  37. I'm done with that.
    I'm done with that
    Yes they both do.
    The pre test has more reasons.
    My essay has a conclusion.
    I did not organize my essays differently.
    Something I learned that I learned that will help me in the future is how to persuade some to do what I want.
    I improved as a writer by learning how to organize my writing.
    I am most proud of my post test because it was more organized and made more sense.

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  38. I read my pre-test and post test twice. Yes, both my paragraphs have a claim that can be argued in at least 2 ways. My post argument has more reasons. My post argument has a conclusion but my pre argument doesn't. No, I didn't organize my paragraphs differently. What I learned about writing argument essays is that just because you need a direct claim and a direct conclusion. I grew as a writer by learning that you need more than one reason. The essay that I'm more proud of is my post essay because I knew more than I did when I started and I had lots of reasons. I also had a claim and a conclusion.


    Shin Be

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  39. Both pieces of riting have a claim that can be argued in two ways. My second essay has more reasons to prove its claim.
    My essay does have a conclusion. I organized my essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test. I learned that they need a claim evidence to prove the claim and a conclusion. I improved as a writer by learning a lot of stuff. I am more proud of my second essay because it has a comclusion and a lot more evidence than the other essay.

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  40. 1. I read my pre- test essay twice
    2. I read my post- test twice
    3. Yes both of my essays have a claim that can be argued in two ways.
    4. My post- test has more reasons to prove my claim
    5. Yes my essays do have conclusions
    6. Yes I did organize my essay differently from my pre- test to my post- test
    7. That you can make a lot of progress
    8. I got more ideas about it.
    9. My post- test because I have more evidence and reasons in it and I new a lot more about writing.

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  41. 1. Done
    2. Done
    3. Yes
    4. Post-test
    5. Yes
    6. Yes
    7. How to get the corect format
    8. The more you wright the better you get
    9. Post-test I dident first my pre-test

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  42. 1.Yes, I read it 2 times.
    2. Yes, I read it 2 times.
    3. Yes, the claims can be argued with more than 2 reasons.
    4. I think my pretest had more evidence that proved my claim, because I could look on the Internet.
    5. Yes, they both have conclusions.
    6. Yes, I did organized them differently.
    7. I can use just to have 1 claim instead of a lot.
    8. I improved, because now I know more about writing argument essays.
    9. I'm more proud of my first one, because I didn't know how to write an argument essay but I did good.

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  43. I have read my post-test essay not only twice but three times to remember all of my facts and that goes for my post-test essay. i think that my post-test ways better than my pre-test because i think that i new more after the pre-test. it feels like i have added more facts that looking back on what i did with my pre-test. one of my topics was that you should or should not clean your planes after you eat off of them or not to do so. one of my reasons why not to is because you can accidental poison your self from all of the bacteria on the pan. my essay has an easy conclusion because it understands everything that you had to do with the understanding of the question and or the problem. Defiantly the hardest thing that i had to do is organize the paragraphs and make sure it all makes scene. i have learned many different things when i was doing both pre-test and post-test but the one that i had to learn the most about or the one that i did learn the most about is the actually it was the pre-test because it filed like i had more time of doing the pre-test than any other test before. the thing that i will use in the future is that i will need to take more time to do all of the little things and make sure everything is perfect. i think me personally i did better on the pre-test then the other test because it feels like i added more information on the pre-test than the post-test.















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  44. 1. I dont have one
    2.Yes i read it 2 times.
    3. Yes it does
    4. My post test.
    5. I do not have a pre test
    6. To take my time and make it the best it can be.
    7. I only have a post test
    8. I have better evidence.
    9. I only have a post test!

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  45. Ania U. made this comment.

    1. Read your pre-test essay twice.
    I read it twice.

    2. Read your post-test essay twice.
    I read it three times

    3. Do both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least two ways?
    Yes, both have a very debatable claim.

    4. Which essay has more reasons to prove your claim?
    The pre-test has more evidence and reasons to prove my claim because we were allowed to use the Internet to help us find statistics.

    5. Does your essay have a conclusion?
    Both essays have a conclusion. But, my post-test has a more detailed on topic one.

    6. Did you organize your essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test?
    My pre-test is more organized because of the evidence and support I chose. But, the post-test has more practiced evidence, since we have been learning about that.

    7. What did you learn about writing argument essays that you will use in the future?
    I learned that argument essays have a mix of reasons and facts. For example: To make an argumentative persuasive you need debatable evidence and a reasons that came from your experience, and statistics to make it sound smart and there would be good proof.

    8. How did you grow and improve as a writer?
    I grew because know I know how to write an argumentative essay that is debatable from both sides. I improved my writing because now I know that in order to write a true informational piece, you need to add a works cited page which has the following: author, title, website, date published, Web. the date you read it. If you don't then you might get in trouble.

    9. Which essay are you more proud of? Why? Explain.
    I am more proud of the post-test because I chose a topic that I knew and cared more about. It might not have been the most organized but is has a debatable claim, three pieces of evidence, support sentences for the evidence, personal experience, detailed reasons, statistics & facts, a conclusion - that re-states my claim, and works cited. My pre-test was almost as good as my post-test but I didn't know what to put in it.

    :-)

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  46. 1.Yes, i did read my essay it was beter then i thought i did not even know that it was mine.
    2.Yes, It was not as good as i thought i would be i need to work on it.
    3.
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    1. 1. I read my pre-test essay twice.
      2. I read my post-test essay twice.
      3. No. The pre-test Argument essay I took was not an argument essay. The second one was. I can't argue in at least two different ways.
      4. The second one.
      5. My second one has a conclusion.
      6. I did organize my essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test.
      7. I learned that it is good to know what argument essays are because if you want to argue with someone about something you don't agree on, you can.
      8. I improved and grew as a writer very well. I went from not knowing what an argument essay is, to knowing what an argument essay is.
      9. I am most proud of my post-test argument essay because it is an argument essay. The pre-test argument essay is not an argument essay.

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  48. i think my post and pre-test can be argued in two or more ways because it is about two different sports who people think are tougher than the other. i think my pre test has more test has more reasons to to support my claim because in each sentance there is at lest one little detail that supports the claim.

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  49. I read both of them twice
    Do both pieces have a claim that can be argued in at least two ways? No, in the pre-test the beginning sentence only has what I think but no reasons to follow, but the post-test has a claim and it can be argued in 2 ways along with the pre-test.
    Which essay has more reasons to prove your claim? My pre-test has more reasons to prove my claim.
    Does your essay have a conclusion? Yes, both of my essays have conclusions.
    Did you organize your essay differently from the pre-test to the post-test? Yes, my essay is more organized in the post-test then in the pre-test.
    What did you learn about writing argument essays that you will use in the future? I learned that the order of the essay should go, claim, reason, reason, reason, and conclusion. I would use that order in the future if I had to wrights complaint letter to my boss.
    How did you grow and improve as a writer? I improved as a writer because now instead of being limited to writing only one topic most of the time I have a bigger variety of topics I can write.
    Which essay are you more proud of? Why? Explain. I am more proud of my post-test essay, because, it is much more organized, it has a bigger variety of evidence, and it is much more sophisticated then my pre-test.

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  50. I read my pre test twice and my post test twice. Both pieces have a claim that can be argued in two of more ways. I think that my pre test has more reasons to support my claim because on the pre test we could look on the web for reasons. On the post test it had to come from our brains.

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  51. Part 1
    1.did people tease slaves
    2.can white people be nice to slaves
    3.why would slaves be sold
    Part 2
    1.can slaves be friends with there owners
    2.what are the challenges of having a slave
    3.slaves struggled alot emotionaly
    Part3
    1.can a black man own a slave
    2.are black people aloud to uace jews as slaves
    3.if a slave dies is it the owners responsibilty
    Part4
    1.why do people make laws for blacks omly
    2.if the slave owner gets arrested what happens to the slave
    3.if the slave does not know how to talk how is it in is
    -Will B

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